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How Mufti Shamayl Nadwi Outmaneuvered Javed Akhtar in a Viral God Debate

A viral breakdown of the Mufti Shamayl Nadwi vs Javed Akhtar debate on God’s existence, examining logic versus emotion, metaphysics versus empiricism, and why this South Asian clash ignited atheism-theism tensions across YouTube, X, and Reddit.

Viral debate: logic vs belief
  • Free will explains moral evil.

  • Human agency assigns responsibility.

  • Divine permission ≠ divine causation.

Blaming God for human violence, he argued, is philosophically incoherent unless humans are mere puppets—which even atheists reject.


Akhtar’s Countermove: Shift the Question Entirely

Javed Akhtar never truly accepted the metaphysical framework—and that choice defined his reception.

His Core Moves

  • The Problem of Evil
    “What kind of God allows children to be bombed?”
    Emotionally powerful. Philosophically unresolved.

  • Morality as Evolutionary Convenience
    Ethics emerge from society, not divinity. Practical, but unable to explain why injustice ought to trouble us.

  • Evidence or Nothing
    Belief must be empirical. But metaphysical claims are, by definition, non-empirical—making the demand self-limiting.

  • Never Stop Asking Questions
    Akhtar accused theism of halting inquiry at God, ignoring that atheism halts inquiry at brute existence just the same.

His style resonated—especially with secular viewers—but critics noted he never directly dismantled the contingency argument itself.


The Utkarsh Rana Effect: Why This Went Nuclear

The debate’s virality multiplied when Utkarsh Rana, a Hindu analyst, publicly stated that Nadwi logically outmaneuvered Akhtar.

That mattered.

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