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How Mufti Shamayl Nadwi Outmaneuvered Javed Akhtar in a Viral God Debate

A viral breakdown of the Mufti Shamayl Nadwi vs Javed Akhtar debate on God’s existence, examining logic versus emotion, metaphysics versus empiricism, and why this South Asian clash ignited atheism-theism tensions across YouTube, X, and Reddit.

Viral debate: logic vs belief

2. Science Explains How, Not Why

When Akhtar leaned on scientific progress, Nadwi didn’t resist it—he compartmentalized it.

Science:

  • Describes mechanisms

  • Maps patterns

  • Predicts outcomes

What it cannot do, Nadwi argued, is answer why existence itself exists rather than nothing.

Rejecting God because of science, therefore, is a category error. One domain cannot invalidate the other.


3. No Scripture, No Safe Exit

Perhaps Nadwi’s most strategic move was epistemic honesty:

  • Scripture will not convince a skeptic.

  • Science cannot verify metaphysical claims.

  • Therefore, only reason is admissible.

By doing this, he removed Akhtar’s most reliable escape hatch: dismissing theology as faith-based assertion.


4. Morality Cannot Be a Majority Vote

When Akhtar framed morality as a human construct—like traffic rules—Nadwi’s response was devastatingly simple:

If morality is purely social consensus, then:

  • Genocide can be moral if popular.

  • Oppression can be ethical if normalized.

  • Justice becomes negotiable.

Objective moral outrage, Nadwi argued, only makes sense if morality itself is objective—and objectivity implies a transcendent source.


5. Evil Does Not Disprove God—It Presupposes Responsibility

On Gaza, suffering, and atrocities, Nadwi did not deflect. He reframed:

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